Opened 10 years ago

Last modified 3 years ago

#1283 assigned enhancement

cycleway=track not rendered on Cycle Map

Reported by: richardbrinkman@… Owned by: Andy Allan
Priority: major Milestone: Wishlist
Component: opencyclemap Version:
Keywords: Cc:

Description

Sorry for posting this on the "Mapnik" trac, but there does not seem to be a "Cycle Way" trac.
Although some people argue that drawing a separate "highway=cycleway" next to an existing road is better then adding "cycleway=track" to that road (I am not one of them), the "cycleway=track" is still heavily used (i.e. in the Netherlands). However, the "Cycle Way" map view does not render the "cycleway=track" roads as being special for cyclist. "cycleway=lane" however is rendered. In my opinion both tracks and lanes should be rendered.

Change History (8)

comment:1 Changed 10 years ago by osm@…

  • Owner changed from steve8@… to osm@…

comment:2 Changed 9 years ago by Andy Allan

  • Component changed from mapnik to opencyclemap
  • Owner changed from osm@… to Andy Allan
  • Status changed from new to assigned

comment:3 Changed 9 years ago by msiebuhr

As both "track" and "lane" are quite heavily used in Denmark, we have quite a few users beginning to add highway=cycleways on the principle "it just works". For a city like Copenhagen, where every major road has either a track or lane, this clutters things in a very significant way!

Please make sure both "track" and "lane" are rendered (even if in identically), so we can at least rid the clutter for everyone else.

comment:4 Changed 9 years ago by Andy Allan

Adding extra ways for non-road features is to be encouraged - it's adding more detail and that's perfectly legitimate. I hope you aren't discouraging people from adding extra detail purely due to your impression that it "clutters things".

comment:5 Changed 9 years ago by sbhr@…

But the cycleways are part of the road! In denmark, we have four major kinds of cycleways;

# A marked up lane on the road (cycleway=lane)
# As above, with a low curb instead of "just" a markup. Consensus in the DK is going towards using cycleway=curbed for this. (The curbs are usually passable on bike.)
# With a small stripe of grass between the road and the cycleway (cycleway=track).
# Major cycleways are separate from the road, which is then a separate highway=cycleway.

From one users quest to convert everything to separate cyclweays in the greater Copenhagen area, the consensus in Denmark is that adding highway=cycleways in not a viable option in the long run.

comment:6 Changed 9 years ago by richardbrinkman@…

In the Netherlands it is even described in the law that a cycleway next to a road (even if it is separated with a few meters of grass) is part of that road. So in the Netherlands a cycleway=track IS a property of the road!

Apart from the legal aspect I agree with "sbhr@…" that adding separate cycleways clutters the map. Most of the time the cycleways cross the main road or side roads without a common node (which is a nightmare for routing). When the cycleway is drawn very close to the road it is rendered invisible at some zoom levels.

But before we end up in a discussion "highway=cycleway" versus "cycleway=track", fact remains that the "cycleway=track" is heavily used and should therefore be rendered on the cycle map.

comment:7 Changed 8 years ago by ligfietser

  • Priority changed from minor to major

I agree to have cycleway=track rendered, could be rendered the same like cycleway=lane, or maybe better, track as a dotted blue line like the separate highway=cycleway

comment:8 Changed 3 years ago by mono11

Is it me or does this still need to be implemented.

If one follow the Wiki in mapping cycle lanes this surely should be rendered in OpenCycleMap?.

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