Opened 9 years ago

Closed 5 years ago

Last modified 5 years ago

#2697 closed enhancement (duplicate)

[amenity-points] Mapnik shows pubs but no nightclubs.

Reported by: Tirkon Owned by: mapnik-team@…
Priority: major Milestone:
Component: mapnik Version:
Keywords: Cc: guerda, LetzFetz, Nighto, fhahn0311@…

Description

The difference between pub and nightclub is, that latter have got a dancefloor. Thus it is inscrutable to me, why pubs are shown in Mapnik but nightclubs are not. Thus: Could the nightclubs be shown in Mapnik as well?

Sorry for my bad english.

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Change History (22)

comment:2 Changed 9 years ago by scai

Is it really that hard to render them? ;/

comment:3 Changed 8 years ago by guerda

Cc: guerda added
Priority: trivialminor

On the talk page of amenity=nightclub[1], a proper icon was proposed and accepted by several users 4 years ago. The matching rule is also stated. I hope, this could be pushed, so that mapnik will finally render nightclubs.

Please add this rendering rule! Thanks! :)

[1]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dnightclub

Changed 8 years ago by LetzFetz

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first suggestion for symbol

Changed 8 years ago by LetzFetz

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Changed 8 years ago by LetzFetz

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comment:4 Changed 8 years ago by LetzFetz

Cc: LetzFetz added
Priority: minormajor

Added 3 possible versions of the accepted symbol. Correct color, SVG. SVGs are made by myself and public domain. Don't know if someone has the rights on the design. (I only recreated the accepted PNG as SVG)

comment:5 Changed 8 years ago by Nighto

Cc: Nighto added

I support this inclusion. I know it's wrong, and I can't talk only for myself, but many of the amenity=bar I've mapped are, actually, nightclubs.

comment:6 Changed 8 years ago by mehgary@…

I support this as well. I have mapped a number of nightclubs and I believe they should be rendered if bars are rendered.

comment:7 Changed 8 years ago by Tirkon

August 2011: 4700 x amenity=nightclub source: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=nightclub#values

comment:8 Changed 8 years ago by attila.asztalos@…

+1 for this. Please fix the rendering.

comment:9 Changed 7 years ago by _ktk_

Is there a reason that no one takes care of that one? Come on, night clubs are very common and a lot of people go there and are interested in it.

There are several icons proposed so that problem is solved as well.

comment:10 Changed 7 years ago by fhahn0311@…

Cc: fhahn0311@… added

I'd be very interested in seeing this feature being added as well. I'm from Berlin and we have hundreds of nightclubs which do not show up on osm. Especially for people unfamiliar with the area, i.e. tourists, which are depandent on planning their trps/evenings out with the help of online maps, this would be a nice addition. :)

comment:11 Changed 7 years ago by LetzFetz

After asking on IRC I got some answers regarding this ticket:

  1. Someone said that the map is already clustered with icons and it gets difficult to add new ones.

This would be a general problem that has to be solved. My ideas: Display icons on slippy map using Javascript or some other mechanism instead of printing them into the map. Only important ones directly on the map. Or detect locations where to many icons would have to be printed and throttle the icons in that location.

  1. Mapnik stylesheet's development stagnates. Who is willing to take the initiative? :D

comment:12 Changed 6 years ago by alex-esko

Now there are over 8000 nightclubs in osm and there ist still no icon. Since bars and pubs are rendered, i see no point for leaving nightclubs out.

As Comment 5 said, if no icon is added, many mappers could be mislead to map nightclubs as bars.

As user woodpeck pointed out, the quality of the icons is sufficient and there are far worse icons in use.

comment:13 Changed 6 years ago by katze_sonne

I found this, which is related to this ticket: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/47

And I agree that nightclubs should be rendered. In most countries they are "more important" than pubs (though I know they are important for british people for example).

comment:14 Changed 6 years ago by derstefan

We all know that one does not map for the renderer, but for the database. But if the partygoer doesn't see his favorite disco on the map, he probably tags it as a bar. I just corrected two discos in my home town.

Nightclubs should be rendered as soon as possible.

comment:15 Changed 5 years ago by math1985

Summary: Mapnik shows pubs but no nightclubs.[amenity-points] Mapnik shows pubs but no nightclubs.

comment:16 Changed 5 years ago by math1985

Resolution: duplicate
Status: newclosed

This issue is now being discussed on Github: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/456

Therefore, I will close it here.

comment:17 Changed 5 years ago by Tirkon

What is the sense to close a ticket on a OSM-project site and bring the discussion to a site, that is outside of OSM? Why should OSM people have to signup on a foreign site, where they do not know their owners in order to discuss OSM things? And how should OSM people know, that such questions are discussed on foreign sites although there is an OSM-one? Without a reasonable answer this should be reopened.

comment:18 Changed 5 years ago by math1985

The background is that the Mapnik stylesheets are no longer maintained. Instead, the rendering is now done with Carto-generated stylesheets. As the component against which the bug was originally reported is no longer maintained, there is no point in leaving this issue open. It is a service from my side to migrate the issues to the new component/project (the original plan was to close all bugs filed against Mapnik).

The new project, openstreetmap-carto, is not run directly by the OSM Foundation. If you disagree with the fact that openstreetmap-carto uses Github, you can either makes your complaints known at Andy Allan, who runs the new project, or if that fails at the OSM Foundation, who are responsible for accepting Andy's rendering as main map on openstreetmap.org.

comment:19 Changed 5 years ago by Tirkon

I understand. Thank you for clearing that up, math1985. :-)

There is an additional point that speaks against the new site. For normal mappers whithout coding experience the so called "Github" is not understandable. Most of them not even know, what a stylesheet is an what it is good for. They only see the map and know, that something goes wrong. Github speaks the ununderstandable language of coders but not the one of mappers. Thus they have no chance to reach the coders with her message. I will see Andy on the the SOTM EU next weekend and talk to him.

Once more thank you very much for your help.

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