Ticket #3138 (closed defect: wontfix)

Opened 4 years ago

Last modified 3 years ago

bicycle=designated not rendered

Reported by: tko Owned by: osm@…
Priority: major Milestone:
Component: opencyclemap Version:
Keywords: Cc:

Description

It seems bicycle=designated by itself has no effect on cycle map rendering, highway=unclassified is rendered the same with or without bicycle=designated when no other cycle related tags are present.

An example here - the outer north-south roads are tagged with bicycle=designated but look exactly the same as any other highway=unclassified.

More generally I would expect all the cycleways as documented in the  Cycleway wiki page - including the easy to miss "Implies bicycle=designated" - to be visible in the cycle map. In addition to this cycleway=track is ignored as well.

Change History

comment:1 Changed 4 years ago by Andy Allan

  • Status changed from new to closed
  • Resolution set to wontfix

The opencyclemap style is for practical purposes, not as a visualisation of the archane tags in the database. Therefore only question that should be answered is "can you cycle on this". Whether the route is "designated", "permissive" or "legally allowed" is of little interest, and so they are all treated as the same for rendering purposes. See  http://gitorious.org/opencyclemap-tagtransform/opencyclemap-tagtransform/blobs/master/transform-access.xml

So an unclassified road, whether "built to intentionally permit cycling" or "cycling just happens to be permitted", is just an unclassified road.

comment:2 Changed 4 years ago by tko

  • Status changed from closed to reopened
  • Resolution wontfix deleted

How is knowing where the routes recommended for cyclists are anything but practical? (Why are such routes signed in the first place?)

I'm referring to roads that have been signed for cyclists (with the small rectangular bicycle sign and/or marks on the road, no lanes or anything more) but are not part of the cycling network or the explicit "belongs to lcn" signage is so hidden that you wouldn't tag them with lcn=yes

Didn't know bicycle=designated is arcane. Is there some more modern method to tag routes recommended for cyclists when there's no cycle lanes or explicit lcn/ncn signage? cycleway=recommended? Other than bicycle=designated didn't really see such in the wiki.

I must be misunderstanding something, but I'm not buying your argument. Are you saying cycleway=lane rendering is an accident and should be removed as well? After all, it makes no difference to "can you cycle on this"

comment:3 Changed 3 years ago by Andy Allan

  • Status changed from reopened to closed
  • Resolution set to wontfix
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