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[admin] Hide administrative boundaries in default mapnik layer #3588

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openstreetmap-trac opened this issue Jul 23, 2021 · 7 comments
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Reporter: Kozuch
[Submitted to the original trac issue database at 2.25pm, Tuesday, 15th March 2011]

Administrative boundaries that are rendered in default mapnik layer are disturbing and ugly. They interfere with roads and ways and make the overall map-reading experience a nightmare. Do we really need them? No major mapping service like Google Maps, Bing or Yahoo Maps uses such a feature in default view. I really do not see any particular benefit to have these boundaries displayed in such visibility as they are now. Lets hide them from the default render on openstreetmap.org.

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Author: katpatuka
[Added to the original trac issue at 12.58pm, Saturday, 19th March 2011]

-1: I need them.

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Author: stanton
[Added to the original trac issue at 6.21pm, Tuesday, 12th April 2011]

Google Maps does show administrative boundaries above a certain level, also depending on zoom. National boundaries are shown even at low zoom levels, region/county/canton boundaries are shown at higher zoom levels.

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  • Show boundaries up to the city level, i.e. admin_level>=8 (rant: why can't we agree on an internationally consistent scheme on what level a city boundary corresponds to?). Personally, I find administrative boundaries within a city (city districts/quarters etc.) really too detailed for most purposes. Dropping them makes the default Mapnik view look a little less cluttered.

  • Move all other boundaries to the Osmarender layer, which has the explicit aim of showing as much as possible.

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Author: ponzu
[Added to the original trac issue at 8.19pm, Wednesday, 13th April 2011]

Agree with the above comments: leave boundaries visible up to admin level 8 for the reasons stated. Hide for level 9 and higher.

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Author: Kozuch
[Added to the original trac issue at 10.54pm, Saturday, 30th April 2011]

I am happy to see some replies here. I do not know what "admin level 8" means, but I guess we should rise the bar for the zoom that all admin. boundaries can be seen in - I mean the zoom level when viewing the map online. I guess moving the whole view few zooms up is a good idea like other online maps have it.

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Author: Kozuch
[Added to the original trac issue at 11.25pm, Saturday, 30th April 2011]

The density of administrative boundary marking also probably depends on location. In CZ for instance such boundaries are heavily displayed all accross the country. Example is here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.4167&mlon=16.16289&zoom=13

If you scroll the map a bit towards the CZ inland, you almost do not see roads through the boundaries at certain zoom levels.

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Author: Kozuch
[Added to the original trac issue at 1.45pm, Monday, 22nd August 2011]

Somewhat related: "Administrative borders are too bold" (http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/3973)

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Author: math1985
[Added to the original trac issue at 6.13pm, Tuesday, 10th June 2014]

This is now being discussed on Github: gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto#619
Therefore, I will close the issue here.

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