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Popdown display for footway #3798

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openstreetmap-trac opened this issue Jul 23, 2021 · 3 comments
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Popdown display for footway #3798

openstreetmap-trac opened this issue Jul 23, 2021 · 3 comments

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Reporter: DaveF
[Submitted to the original trac issue database at 3.45pm, Wednesday, 1st June 2011]

Hi
When an existing way that has the tags highway=footway & footway=yes tag is selected in Simple mode a Pedestrians pop down appears on the Basic tab.

If the footway=yes is missing this pop down, doesn't display. I believe it should.

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Author: stevage
[Added to the original trac issue at 1.00am, Sunday, 5th June 2011]

Assuming you mean foot=yes (not footway=yes). The behaviour seems consistent to me. Normally, people don't mark foot=yes as it's redundant, and there's really no need for a redundant drop down box on the Basic tab. "This is a footpath, and pedestrians are...allowed!"

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Author: DaveF
[Added to the original trac issue at 1.53pm, Tuesday, 7th June 2011]

Replying to [comment:1 stevage]:

Assuming you mean foot=yes (not footway=yes).
Yes,

Normally, people don't mark foot=yes as it's redundant,
Really? (Over a million in use). Then why does P2 add it under Walking>Pedestrian>Allowed?

and there's really no need for a redundant drop down box on the Basic tab
It's the same for Designated etc. It's inconsistent to display it to allow only the amending of an existing tag but not adding new ones.

"This is a footpath, and pedestrians are...allowed!"
The existence of a footpath doesn't mean there's a legal right to walk it

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Author: stevage
[Added to the original trac issue at 2.09pm, Tuesday, 7th June 2011]

I mean, it's redundant to tag foot=yes and highway=footway, because highway=footway implies the latter (or rather, it implies highway=designated). See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions

It's the same for Designated etc. It's inconsistent to display it to allow only the amending of an existing tag but not adding new ones.

Yep. Potlatch 2 is inconsistent. OSM tags are inconsistent. The current arrangement lets you express most situations. It could probably be improved further.

I'm not sure if you're just unfamiliar with how PL2 works (dropdowns appear on the Basic tab either if they're set to always appear there, or if the value that they set happens to be set for the given object) or you have a particular change in mind.

The existence of a footpath doesn't mean there's a legal right to walk it

But a footpath that is not accessible to the general public is the exception rather than the rule, and that's why the dropdown box doesn't appear on the Basic tab, and why it does appear on the Pedestrian tab. Thanks for helping confirm that the current situation is probably right. :)

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