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Traffic restriction only_straight_on does not detect road at crossing #5189

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openstreetmap-trac opened this issue Jul 23, 2021 · 3 comments

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Reporter: ErnstlAT
[Submitted to the original trac issue database at 4.51pm, Friday, 20th June 2014]

Greetings, I have here a road crossing, for which I have received wrong car driving directions using the navigation software OsmAnd, which uses the OSM map material and I would like to indicate on OpenStreetMap the correct turn restriction. This whole issue is about indicating one traffic sign, saying "Go straight ahead", like this one:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:France_road_sign_B21b.svg

I have read on the OSM wiki

wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Restriction

that this would be a restriction of type only_straight_on'' and that I have to select a ''from'' and a ''to way and that this is best done using the Potlatch2 editor. The restriction information is attached to the node, which constitutes the road crossing.

Unfortunately, it does not detect the second road involved in this road crossing.

I have attached a screen shot of the road crossing of interest, which also depicts the traffic situation. You can see that it is a road going west to east.

I would like to express:

  1. Allowed to go normally from east to west on Kierlinger Strae

  2. Allowed to go normally from west to east on Kierlinger Strae

  3. Allowed to go from east down south into the Karl Domaniggasse

  4. But when you come from the west on the Kierlinger Strae'', you have a road sign, ''only straight on'' to the east along ''Kierlinger Strae.

There are no other road signs at this road crossing.

== Steps to reproduce: ==

1.) Find the road crossing of interest. How to find it:

  • node ID: 293708029
  • geographic location: 48,3073607, 16,320522
  • intersection of Karl Domaniggasse'' and ''Kierlinger Strae'' in the town of ''Klosterneuburg, near Vienna, Austria, Europe.

I have attached the screenshot of the road crossing of interest.

2.) Open Potlatch2 editor

3.) select the above-mentioned node

4.) in the left editor pane, select Restrictions.

5.) select add new restriction

6.) select only straight on (blue circle with white arrow pointing up/straight ahead).

7.) in the field from:'', it will not detect the ''Kierlinger Strae'', but only show the ''Karl Domainggasse.

I have attached a second screenshot from Potlatch2 at this stage.

== Current: ==

Using Potlatch2, it does not find the second road, only one of them, the Karl Domaniggasse'', but the ''Kierlinger Strae is not listed and cannot be selected.

== Expected: ==

Ability to select from: Kierlinger Strae'' (left map side/west side), ''only_straight_on'' to ''Kierlinger Strae (right map side/east side).

Meaning: When you come from the west on the Kierlinger Strae'', you see a road sign saying, ''You must go straight ahead.

If I could express that in Potlatch2, that would be great :-)

Thanks and greetings,
Ernst Rohlicek

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Author: smsm1
[Added to the original trac issue at 8.17pm, Saturday, 21st June 2014]

You may find it easier to use the iD editor, which now has a dedicated editor for turn restrictions.

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Author: ErnstlAT
[Added to the original trac issue at 12.49pm, Friday, 27th June 2014]

Thank you for the pointer, I found the turn restrictions editor in iD and put in the information using the editor.

Caveat: Currently, it does not seem to support mandatory road signs (the blue one with the white arrow going straight up), but only prohibition signs can be expressed using the turn restrictions editor.

Unsure: I wondered the why the iD editor also changed numerous bus routes going through that road crossing. But they are not affected by the mandatory go straight on sign, since they all just go straight through the crossing anyway, see the changeset number 23077652 here:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/23077652

Otherwise, easy-to-use editor feature in iD..!

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Author: SomeoneElse
[Added to the original trac issue at 12.55pm, Friday, 27th June 2014]

(not that it's related to P2 but for info)

Your changeset #23077652 created http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/289170691 by splitting the existing road - hence relations that use that road have an extra way in them now.

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